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Lichfield and Burntwood residents asked for views on waste strategy

People living in Lichfield and Burntwood are being asked to have their say on how waste is dealt with in the future.

A consultation is taking place across Staffordshire to help decide how rubbish and recycling will be handled until 2020.

Lichfield District Council is one of ten local authorities across Staffordshire which work together to manage the waste collected from local homes and businesses as part of the Staffordshire Waste Partnership.

Many of the targets in the original strategy, first written in 2007, are already well on the way to being met so a new plan is being drawn up.

Councillor Mike Wilcox, Leader of Lichfield District Council, said: “As this strategy goes across the county, and will affect our district, it’s really important that local views are fed into this consultation.

“This is why we’re hoping plenty of people will go online and give their feedback on this important strategy.”

To find out how to have your say visit www.lichfielddc.gov.uk/jointwastestrategy. The consultation will run until December 13.

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21 Comments

  1. Rob

    7th December, 2013 at 12:27 pm

    Why waste money on a pointless exercise when we are at the mercy of EU diktats?

  2. Cynic

    7th December, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    ROB – It is so they can say “We did consult” and then silently say – “and ignored you all”!

  3. Comment is Free

    7th December, 2013 at 8:25 pm

    I’ll be feeding in to continue to work on increasing recycling and in particular to combine a food waste prevention message with the food waste collection system. Average family can save over £600 per year! See http://www.lovefoodhatewaste.com

  4. Cynic

    7th December, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    “Comment is Free” Can you point me to some data that proves we go shopping – get home -and throw £12 per week of it in the bin?
    Please do not refer me to your hand out – Male Bovine Waste Product!!
    If that is too complicated for you to find perhaps you can answer this question – Has any minister EVER read and understood one of your had outs?

  5. Comment is Free

    7th December, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Hi Cynic

    You might find this report useful as it shows just that http://www.wrap.org.uk/content/household-food-and-drink-waste-uk-2012.

    Part of the problem could be lack of awareness / acceptance as many people think that they don’t waste food, when in reality, most people do. My personal food waste nemesis is bread – I often end up wasting the end and a chunk.

    I don’t have any handouts so I’m not sure what to offer you. In terms if ministers understanding – there’s a House of Lords enquiry on food waste taking place at the moment. Parliament TV catch up if you’re interested!

    As for bulls and other livestock-this may be regulated by the Animal By-Products Regulations, but you can check with the regulators if you’d like ;)

  6. Cynic

    8th December, 2013 at 12:14 am

    “Comment is Free” Do you mean this report part quote below!!!!
    Quote”While we have tried to make sure this report is accurate, we cannot accept responsibility or be held legally responsible for any loss or damage arising out of or in connection with this information being inaccurate, incomplete or misleading” Quote – they will not even stand by their own data!!

    You say no hand outs then point to “hand out”.

    What I would like to see is how much you collected from each house – itemised.
    Genuine data that someone anyone will state is truthful.

    If the enquiry only look at your redacted data it will not help them to arrive at the truth.

    If your end of bread adds up to £12 a week you must eat a lot of bread.

  7. Comment is Free

    8th December, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Hi Cynic

    your quote is a standard disclaimer that one would be seen in a similar fashion on most publications. Your I don’t really understand your attitude. You ask for evidence and I send you a link to (world-leading) evidence, but now I get the impression that you want to see the raw data. Firstly, why does anyone have to show you this for you to accept it? 1,800 households plus kitchen diaries plus all the data local authorities is a lot. There’s a more full report available but I don’t think you’ve read it and it appears you might not get past the front page with the picture and the second page with a disclaimer.

    You sound quite angry and demanding that you found see the truth / data / evidence, but you don’t want to read it (and you call it a handout??). There’s not conspiracy here. You can respond what you’d like to the consultation as will I.

    Secondly, the sounds of it you will also be wanting to rail against in a non-constructive and demanding way. Even when someone tries to send you some info to help.

    My own fault for emgageing with a tr oll, but I hope the scientific, credible and independently audited food waste information is of use to ther readers and ditto the love food hate waste tips. In total there’s 15 million tonnes of food waste in this country every year. We pay for half if that then pay council tax for it to be taken away as waste, but it’s ok…it’s not Cynic’s and hd disagrees with

  8. Comment is Free

    8th December, 2013 at 9:16 am

    Hi Cynic – repost due to bad phone typing-I’m sure you’ll excuse typos

    your quote is a standard disclaimer that one would be seen in a similar fashion on most publications. Your I don’t really understand your attitude. You ask for evidence and I send you a link to (world-leading) evidence, but now I get the impression that you want to see the raw data. Firstly, why does anyone have to show you this for you to accept it? 1,800 households plus kitchen diaries plus all the data local authorities is a lot. There’s a more full report available but I don’t think you’ve read it and it appears you might not get past the front page with the picture and the second page with a disclaimer.

    You sound quite angry and demanding that you found see the truth / data / evidence, but you don’t want to read it (and you call it a handout??). There’s not conspiracy here. You can respond what you’d like to the consultation as will I.

    Secondly, the sounds of it you will also be wanting to rail against (insert any given topic/individual/organisation here) in a non-constructive and demanding way. Even when someone tries to send you some info to help.

    My own fault for emgageing with a tr oll, but I hope the scientific, credible and independently audited food waste information is of use to ther readers and ditto the love food hate waste tips. In total there’s 15 million tonnes of food waste in this country every year. We pay for half if that then pay council tax for it to be taken away as waste, but it’s ok…it’s not Cynic’s and hd disagrees with (insert other fact / opinion here)

  9. Cynic

    8th December, 2013 at 11:38 am

    “your quote is a standard disclaimer ” It might be in your world but in mine very few people can tell their boss – “we cannot accept responsibility ” etc!!

    If all the RAW data/info was put on computer – there is very little work in providing it. Just because I replied quickly you jumped at the conclusion I only looked at pictures (LOL) it is probably beyond your comprehension that some one is actually interested and studied this and previous reports.
    It is an old ply to attack the person asking for justification of your figs when you can not show how you arrived at them.

    You mention you waste bread – I had seen Wrap have quoted the price of items to use in the reports but can not right now find the one they used for bread.
    The BBC quote well under a pound (money) in Lichfield the standard loaf is under a pound but in your case lets say £2 two pound (cost). Lets assume your end bit equals three slices and it a 15 slices to a loaf. You will need to use 5 full loaves to waste one cost £2 therefore to waste £12 you would need to buy THIRTY loaves to throw away 6 !!! EACH and every WEEK! And if they are cheaper loaves you would have even more to throw away!

    I see I have some people who disagree (red arrows) with my comments. If you agree with the “throw away” figs here is what you do – go to your kitchen food store take out £12 pounds of food each week and give it to those poor people we hear about in Lichfield – the ones we are told need the new food banks.
    Problem solved.

  10. Cynic

    8th December, 2013 at 11:53 am

    I should have put that I agree we should recycle more and have less waste – it is the WRAP figs that relate to households that I disagree with.

  11. Cynic

    10th December, 2013 at 11:26 am

    It is a bit disappointing the debate seems to have gone flat.
    Lets see if we can get it going again.
    Would those that read this post like to tell us what they throw away each week.
    Not detailed like I asked from WRAP but quite simple info.
    I give an example (just an example) below.

    Weekly throw away –
    Mushy peas 50p
    Beluga Caviar 90p
    Fish Fingers 40p
    Bread 25p
    Quail 10p
    Rice 10p
    Just insert your own food items.
    Come on folks I would expect that at least Jozef/Ross/Brownhills Bob would know what they throw away.

  12. BrownhillsBob

    10th December, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    Cynic, I did a little empirical research, looking through your bin.

    Under countless copies of the Daily Mail with love hearts drawn over Richard Littlejohn’s face, I found the following:

    Large quantity of hard cheese
    A couple of decidedly bitter lemons
    2lb of black bananas
    unopened packet of Happy Face biscuits
    a bad egg
    a quantity of sour grapes

    Very wasteful indeed.
    Bob

  13. Some Bloke

    10th December, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Cynic, where do you buy your caviar from? 90p Sounds like a bargain. And why on Earth would anyone ever want to throw away fish fingers? They’re ace!

  14. Cynic

    10th December, 2013 at 11:29 pm

    And I thought that just for once we might have a sensible debate.

  15. Jozef Nakielski

    11th December, 2013 at 12:24 am

    lol you’ve got to admit that was funny cynic. Bob does come out with gems.

    usually half a plate of chips a day that mum leaves with a few veg and a bit of meat.
    half a tin of peas, of beans, of tomatos, a chicken breast this week, three sausages, usually two crusts a day plus a couple of slices. Used to be half a loaf before I started eating there. Two cakes last week, one this. mums gone off cakes which is very worrying, It’s all she lives for. (found out she’s got a fast heart beat with a murmur today :( ) if I didn’t eat them there’d be three bananas.

    there’s lots more and we don’t waste any where near as much as most. Next door to me usually puts out three bags of trash a week . A lot of that must be food. I don’t eat here now but even when i did i put out about a quater of of one bin bag or less a week.

    Once you start recycling food ( we’re on about our 8th official week) you’ll realise just how much you waste. Our new system is one wheelie bin for green garden waste and food waste, peelings etc. A black wheelie for film and non recyclable waste and a new red lid wheelie bin with a basket in the top. glass, plastic, cans go in the bottom main bin, card and paper in the basket. It works extremely well if people use it properly.

  16. Cynic

    11th December, 2013 at 12:47 am

    Jozef – I did laugh but don’t tell them!

    We have been recycling for more than four decades so know how much we throw away.

    One week = Potato peeling from not so good spuds peeled thinly other spuds scrubbed – not eatable but did cost 27pence.
    14 egg shells – banana/orange skins and some lamb chop bones – typical week.
    We eat circa 6 other vegetables – NO waste. I have tried to get my wife to eat the bones – without success!

    I am very surprised if you are really throwing away such food – you have been good enough to reply so I wont say any more.

    My black bin for non recyclable items goes out once a year.

  17. Cynic

    11th December, 2013 at 12:50 am

    Cynic, where do you buy your caviar from?

    From a little place called Russia.

  18. Medici2471

    11th December, 2013 at 1:19 am

    Put it in the bin…?!

  19. Jozef Nakielski

    11th December, 2013 at 2:26 am

    best place for the horrible stuff. I know just how josh baskin felt. especially at 89p.
    My brother forgot that he’d cooked an extra chicken breast to make sandwiches 3 hours before. He was apparently going to make his work pack up using it. He does it all the time. I’m surprised he remembers to breath tbh. and it’s hard to predict what an 84yr old is going to eat.
    I won 100 pound about 12 years ago for my recycling efforts.
    Most people haven’t the time or inclination to work out meals so that they don’t waste food. My gf is as wasteful as you, all left overs go into another meal, but its very rare that it happens. Believe it or not some of the most wasteful are the worse off people. They don’t cook fresh meals, everything is ready meals.
    However seeing that waste in that kitchen counter bin is a bit of an eye opener. Makes people think how they can reduce it, my brother has discovered tupperware containers. writing on a memo what food is open, bb4 dates. planning meals better. He still forgets but in the last 8 weeks our waste has definitely reduced.

  20. Cynic

    11th December, 2013 at 11:37 am

    You don’t have to plan that much – for example all countries make “stew” they call it something else but it is still stew.
    Your beans etc make a good stew/soup even the chips go in and all the meat – in a posh hotel what do you think they make soup of the day with!
    If a loaf is too big – get home – half goes in the deep freezer and it only takes a couple of hours to thaw.
    The stale bread /cakes make toast or make bread pudding – hot with custard – yum yum.

    Ready meal are small so not much left over but if there is I will let others say what you can do with them.

    You can use plastic lids for open tins – less fuss and no writing – use before you open another tin.

    Use before dates – I really don’t see how that applies to most prepared food you buy – the ready meals have a window of a year A BLxxxx YEAR how can any one let that go out of date and the short dates only buy if you are going to eat it.

    “the most wasteful are the worse off people” They are worse off because too often money has no value to them .Today very few people know what it is like to be poor and so we have those on far more than the average workers wage watching the box and being told they are poor. At this point I have to correct the item above I don’t have the Mail – it is too far left for me

  21. Jozef Nakielski

    11th December, 2013 at 1:54 pm

    They do have value of money, they;re just poor at planning, at being in control of their lives. They’ve spent most of their lives having it run by government.